Frequent Miler famously coined the term Perpetual Point Machine, PPM, which is to find a loop to earn unlimited points. Last week, I posted that I will help you, but you need to do the work and this post holds true as I will leave only a handful of clues. The only downside, it’s an unethical goose. I tweeted the other day about a sighting of the PPM and @aegt reminded me that there is a Perpetual Point Machine out there that I forgot about.
@ChasingThePts unethical ones have always existed like buy n return..and then ST debit is pretty close to a real, ethical n scaleable.
— aegt (@aegt) April 7, 2014
If you don’t have any morals here is how you do it:
The Details:
- You need a Gmail email address because of the unique properties, I will not explain why. You’ll need to research this
- The vendor, I’ve written about it in 2014
- It’s a pain in the behind for the PPM, therefore, I highly recommend a macro/script to automate some of the process
- The vendor can be found on multiple miles earning and cash back portals
Because it’s supposed to be a one time offer but the coupon consistently works, this makes it an unethical perpetual point machine. The vendor is getting screwed big time.
I will not answer any emails or questions regarding this vendor in question. I will leave the comments open for discussion, but if it takes the wrong way I will have to close it. I also highly encourage that if you find the vendor to keep it to yourself.
Why Am I Even Writing About It?
There’s been a few times that I have generated points that have made me think if it was a bad idea or not. This opportunity really is a bad idea. I am writing about it is because if we go back to Matt’s Venn diagram, this post is designed for the both sides of the circle not in the union. If you try hard enough, you can find exceptional deals. This PPM is available, but your ethics will be called into question. Frequent Miler has a great post on that line he will not cross. I’m sure Frequent Miler has come across a PPM or two, but crossed the line and never made it for publication.
(I deliberately left a total of 6 clues in this post)
Good you are letting evolution take its own course.
I doubt the vendor is so naive and likely knows very well whats going on. Maybe they just want to spend a few dollars to massively expand the number of signed-up users so that they can market/sell themselves better.
With all the clues that you have given with some patience and research any one should be able to figure it out.
Seriously? You’re giving this a lot of publicity? Don’t you understand that you bloggers destroy everything good? Couldn’t you have shared this with me via an SM on FT?
You win the funniest comment prize!
Am I dense? I have no clue what this is or where to go next.
…..And then my wife looked at me in the middle of the night and said wth are you doing up right now. And why do you look like you are doing a research project.
Thanks
Me too, narrowed down to three posts. But no wiser, yet.
I went over every post. My points, Starbucks and gambling online is the ones of note. Anyone want to say if I’m warm?
Am I dumb or need one more clue?
Well, it’s obviously WholeFoods. Didn’t anyone look at the picture?
If I have figured this out, it would require signing up again and again to a certain service, using gmails email address over and over in slightly different ways to sign up multiple times (using + and .), and the post you wrote in 2014 was locked.
My guess (without searching your previous posts) – either Kohl’s or Groupon.
Kohl’s has a $5 off any purchases coupon for new customers and people have created multiple email addresses to get it. I find it unethical and will not do it.
Groupon has a $10 referral code and again people abuse it by creating a 2nd email address and referring from the first.
For those who hav not figured it out, the very first comment (mine) also has a clue in the very first line.
@Bak the vendor you are pointing to doesn’t make sense because of the following clue.
“The vendor can be found on multiple miles earning and cash back portals”
@aegt Aha. Hmm so there is more to it.
@bak can you contact me on twitter (@aegt) or FT (aegt123)
Just wrote to you on FT
is it Wholefood?
How does the liquidation process work for whatever you purchase in order to trigger the ppm?
@bak I have the same question as aegt! I got your hint, but don’t know how it relates to “The vendor can be found on multiple miles earning and cash back portals”. Any additional hints will be really helpful! I am cbb13 on FT!
@bak, I got your reference but like @cbb13 I am confused as how to make this PPM. Any insight would be helpful. I am rekhihs on FT.
Evolve Money
Make multiple accounts
Use code save5april for $5 off any bill
I think this is highly unethical, and I hope Evolve doesn’t allow it. Evolve has been really useful, and I would hate to see it go down because of this.
It’s not evolve, because it’s not gonna generate you any points and it’s not available on any portals. You’d just be stealing their money.
Hmm, I don’t see how starbucks, groupon, or gambling can really make money. The only thing that might make money would be churning gift cards somehow, and that would have to be a store online that would allow you to purchase a gift card, and get portal points. I haven’t seen anything like this mentioned in any posts though, let alone a coupon to get a bigger discount on the purchase.
Still no extra hints and no one has figured it out? Someone shed some light on this for us. Message me on FT @psone
How do unlock the gift card churn post from January?
This game sucks.
For those who have figured it out, you’re going to have a bad time if you follow through with this. This isn’t only unethical, it’s also borderline illegal (and I’d say it’s more on the side or being illegal than non legal). I talked to a few lawyer friends and they all agreed that the risk vs reward wasn’t there and they usually like a challenge like this.
For those who haven’t worked it out, your time is going to be better spent elsewhere. Unless you like the idea of being investigated for fraudulent activity.
Agreed!
I think I found it ^_^
Really? Tell me, tell me, tell me. 🙂 I haven’t been able to figure it out. I’m “psone” on FlyerTalk
i’ve been thinking this for weeks can’t find it. tell me pleeeaaase.
Sorry, I can’t say
My guess: Google is the one loosing the money on this, (Gmail you must have together with any Google account), related to Google Wallet (last year people were earning thousands of free points with them and it was heavily discussed)
If I find it unethical, I won’t do it. But curiosity killed the cat and I’m going nuts.
I don’t think it’s google wallet.
Can it be Sears?
If it’s not groupon or whole foods, what is it. GameStop?
Please tell me if I’m on track.
Getridofyourmiles@gmail.com
Did anyone figure this out? I have gone back through all the posts and still have no idea… any direction would be great….
I’m pretty sure I figured out the “what”, but not all of the “how”. I would never, ever cross this line, and so I probably stay up at night figuring that part out. Pretty sure this would be a bad, bad idea.
probably *won’t* stay up… typo
Want to share?
Can you email me…Pretty sure this died by now, so Just curious is all? Thanks lol.
I don’t know if this is the same one, but it sounds very similar.
http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2014/09/10/searching-for-points-and-finding-a-point-cascade-and-a-dead-ppm/