Seattle has been high on our list of places to visit for a long time now. My wife grew up on the west coast and spent summers traveling from San Diego and, later, Phoenix to the Pacific Northwest for family vacations. She hasn’t been back in a while, and in the meantime, the farthest north I’ve traveled on the west coast is San Francisco. Being from the Northeast, it seemed obvious to me that we “had” to take advantage of the Cathay Pacific flight to Vancouver, so we’ll be starting our trip there and migrating down to Seattle in time for the 4th of July.
Introduction Outbound Flights Vancouver Hotel Seattle Hotel Return Flights ActivitiesSeattle hotels are extremely well covered by other bloggers. Others’ coverage made our choices much easier than they should have been for a city with this many options. Fortunate for me, but maybe unfortunate for many readers, is that my Hyatt preference is really going to show here. As was the case with Vancouver, the fact remains that I am trying to minimize cash outlay for this trip and the bulk of my points are with Chase Ultimate Rewards, which makes Hyatt a natural fit. Coupled with our completed Diamond trial that will keep our status into 2016, it’s hard to stay somewhere else.
Our requirements are the same as in Vancouver – downtown, walkable location to the major sights, shopping and restaurants; the availability of a decent breakfast; and close to some kind of transportation link to/from the airport – rail preferred. Hyatt has a few properties in Seattle, two of which are located a little more than a block apart and meet all of the above – the Grand Hyatt Seattle and the Hyatt at Olive 8.
Grand Hyatt Seattle
This hotel is probably the more traditional upscale hotel of the two. It is a full service property with a number of room categories, including a Club level and various Suites. By all accounts, it is a nice property, recently renovated, with excellent service. It has a fitness center, multiple restaurants including a Ruth’s Chris location, which at worst will be a consistent chain option. It also houses a Starbucks, the full coffee shop not just a counter, off the lobby. Notably, there is a hot tub but not a pool, and we would prefer the latter should we get stuck at the hotel due to unforeseen circumstances (read: toddler meltdown).
It may also be a bit against the grain, but I prefer hotels without a club lounge. Here’s why: Hyatt’s Diamond breakfast amenity is rolled into the club lounge amenity, and for the most part, your complimentary breakfast will be there. Club lounges are usually fairly quiet, but you’ll mostly have a continental spread with few or no hot options. I suppose there’s the exclusivity of it, but I care very little about that – in fact, my wife will tell you I get suspicious when a restaurant is too empty or too quiet. On the other hand, Hyatts without a club lounge will provide breakfast at the restaurant, and that breakfast is usually quite good – many have excellent buffets, like my current favorite the Park Hyatt Aviara, while others just have menus, but either way there’s a variety. As a practical matter, the breakfast credit in these situations is either obscenely high (Park Hyatt Aviara), unknown by the night clerk (Hyatt Regency Boston) or both. In Boston, I was specifically told “not to worry” about it. I did not, and was not disappointed. That’s a lot of words about breakfast, but in summary, the restaurant is usually better in my book and for the most part you only have that as an option if the hotel doesn’t have a club lounge.
Hyatt at Olive 8
You may be thinking it, but the Olive 8 is probably our choice for Seattle. In fact, I’ll ruin the surprise and tell you that this is the hotel that I booked. The accommodations are similar to the Grand Hyatt, but I am somewhat swayed by the fact that the entry level suite here is a bit larger than the Grand and can be had with an extra half bath – not that we’ll be entertaining, but it’s nice to have a little bit extra space and another place to get ready, especially since our return date is still flexible. I will note that I won’t actually pay for a suite, but I will use a Diamond Suite Upgrade certificate if something with a view of some fireworks is available. This hotel also features a pool.
In my contrarian club lounge view, I see it as a positive that this hotel does not have a club lounge. Instead, the on-site restaurant Urbane is pretty well regarded both at breakfast and other times of the day, should the need arise to eat in. I would speculate that at least once during a week long stay, we will eat at the hotel out of exhaustion, so it’s nice to have a decent option. Generally speaking, Hyatt’s city properties with restaurants do a good job with local flavor, including local sourcing of ingredients, and the Olive 8’s reputation is no different. One thing I know is that the Olive 8 will be the better breakfast of the two hotels.
Booking
Both hotels are Category 4, meaning 7,500 points + $100 cash, or 15,000 points outright per night. This far out, cash rates ($219 for a standard king room at the moment) mean very little to me in terms of calculating my point “values” so this time I looked at it in terms of buying back my points. If the options are 15,000 points or 7,500 + $100, that means I am buying back my points at ($100 / 7500 = ) $0.013… each. For Hyatt points, I think that’s a good deal, so I wanted to go with Cash + Points if available.
I started the booking process by calling Hyatt reservations and asking if cash and points nights were available at both hotels, as you cannot see or book those rates online. I was told they both did, which made narrowing my decision a little bit more difficult. Both hotels had plenty of pure points nights available as well. In the end, I chose the Olive 8 based on the potential for a better suite, a restaurant vs club lounge breakfast and the pool.
Once we can pin down our return date, we’ll get the flight back locked up and then focus on planning the fun parts of the trip. One thing is certain: after the long Maine winter, we’ll be really ready for this Seattle trip!
Good choice! I love the Olive8. You can also use the annual certificates there (have done that twice). The breakfast is terrific in the restaurant and the pool is salt water and lovely. I always use light rail to get to the hotel. The walk is actually further from the airport to the rail station than the rail station to the hotel at the other end. Really easy to do. Hope you love it!
I appreciate the input there. I was hoping we made the right call. Other blogs seem high on the Olive 8, but Hyatt is getting a lot of attention in general now from the points and miles folks because of their award chart, ease of points acquisition (Chase UR) and frankly ridiculous treatment of Diamonds. I used to be pretty loyal to Starwood, but I’m finding that I like the general vibe at Hyatt properties better, so coupled with all of the above it was worth going for status and seeing how things worked out.
How is getting from the airport to the hotel via rail? Doable with luggage and a stroller? One of the real vacation budget killers is the rental car – not usually because of the direct cost, but rather the cost to park it, so we’re hoping to avoid having one entirely in both Seattle and Vancouver.
I travel very light so I can handle my own luggage and use public transportation. I think you can do it with a stroller as long as your luggage isn’t too burdensome. I agree about rental cars. I love it when I don’t have to have one.
FWIW, I travel to Seattle twice a month and have stayed at every Hyatt property in the greater Seattle area. The Grand is definitely much, much nicer – I’ve gotten upgraded there about 50% of the time (unconfirmed), and their club is decent. The distance between the two is negligible, but the biggest caveat is that the water pressure at Olive8 sucks.
You know, I didn’t write it but as soon as I saw the Olive 8 was leed certified, I got suspicious about the water pressure. How is the entry level suite at the grand? Thanks for the tip btw.
It’s spacious, but nothing particularly fancy. IIRC, they don’t actually have a ‘door’ between the ‘living room’ and the ‘bed room’, just a lot of space.
Two complains about the Grand – (i) the way their rooms are colored makes it look like they forgot to paint one of the walls (the wall with the headboard) (ii) the placement of their amenities feels very sloppy – sometimes, there’s shampoo in the shower, sometimes it’s placed in the bathtub, etc. The latter is a super minor complaint, but these types of mistakes aren’t made at the Tokyo Park.
They were renovating their Regency Club last time I stayed there (which made for a ghetto temp club).
A lot of space is good. I don’t necessarily need a door. Actually, I definitely don’t – it just usually means a bigger room. The Westin Grand, which I researched for Vancouver, is similar. Their studio suites are sometimes bigger than the bedroom suites, probably because the wall cuts off some square footage. For us it’s just nice to have a clear bit of space where our daughter can run around before bed if needed.
The biggest turnoff for me on the Grand is the club lounge. We are 100% certain to eat breakfast at the hotel and the restaurant almost always does a better job. I am also concerned about the water pressure, though, after your last comment. I don’t have a marble shower at home, but the water pressure is so good here that it’s hard to feel clean anywhere else. Odd, I know.
We stayed at the Hyatt Place this July. I would have chosen one of the others except they were booked for our dates once we finally decided on dates. I liked the Hyatt Place for the extra room for our family of 4, and the location was awesome. But I may have preferred the amenities at one of the other 2 hotels. I liked the location of the Hyatt Place enough that without Diamond status, it would have been my top choice (and because of the free breakfast). I’ll be writing a post about all of the things we did during our 4 night trip.
Excellent. The pressure is on, I already linked to your trip page 😀
The Hyatt place will be where we go if we decide to extend the trip and can’t keep our room. It reminds me that I need to plan a staycation to check out the new HP here.
Just stayed at the Olive 8 with a for year old. The pool was great and warm. Other kids and adults were sharing very well. Its default worth the small premium over the Hyatt Place, but I’ve never stayed at the Grand. We’ll be going back to the 8 next year!
Glad to hear it! Not all hotels do well with kids at pools, but I suppose this isn’t Vegas… Or an Andaz.
Hi awty,
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Its not a hotels guide, but more of a food and activities guide. Hope you find it useful!
SG Team