The Citi ThankYou Points program has long been a lagging competitor to Chase and AMEX transferrable points programs. However, Citi has added transfer partners and enough benefits to make ThankYou cards worth looking at, especially if you’ve already maxed out the number of cards you’re comfortable applying for with other issuers. Let’s take a look at the accounts that do earn ‘full’ points, the ones you can transfer. For an in-depth look at transfer possibilities to see if ThankYou points will work for you or your family, check out this post by Travelisfree.
Citi ThankYou® Premier Card
has a $125 annual fee which is waived the first year and an innovative (in the fact that many applicants won’t ever get the full bonus) signup bonus: 20,000 points after $2,000 in purchases within the first 3 months of account opening, then 30,000 points after another $3,000 in purchases within the first 3 months of your second year of being a cardmember. It does earn 3X points on dining and entertainment and 2X on most travel [Edit: these categories are being reversed, with gas also being added at 3X, on 4/19/2015]. This offer stinks, check out why!
There is a much better offer for this card available to Citigold clients as long as you don’t mind doing some manufactured spending on this card: earn up to 50,000 bonus ThankYou Points — 30,000 points after $3,000 in purchases within the first 3 months of becoming a cardmember and 20,000 points after a total of $15,000 in purchases within the first 12 months. So to take advantage of that offer you do have to spend an additional $10,000 but you have a year to do so, you earn points on those purchases, and you don’t have to pay the $125 annual fee.
Citi Prestige® Card
The public offer for this card is 30,000 points after spending $2000 within 3 months. Compared to the Premier Card, the bonus categories are reversed at 2X points on dining and entertainment and 3X on most travel [Edit: as pointed out by dbeach in the comments, gas station purchases will also earn 3X starting 4/19/2015]. Also, points on a Premier card account can be used at 1.6 cents per point for AA and US Airways tickets. The annual fee is $450, easily offset with airline credits during the first year. Again, the in-branch offer is better if you can get it.
The in-branch offer for Citigold clients: earn up to 60,000 bonus ThankYou Points — 30,000 points after $3,000 in purchases within the first 3 months of becoming a cardmember and 30,000 points after a total of $15,000 in purchases within the first 12 months. The annual fee for Citi Gold clients is reduced to $350, and the rest of the benefits are the same. For an account of applying with the public offer and requesting a match to 60K, check out this post by The Frequent Miler. You may also be able to get this offer without any CitiGold account as Rapid Travel Chai did in this post. Also, you get a 15% bonus on points (not counting bonus points) earned annually if you’re a Citigold client.
Prestige® Card lounge access and airline credits.
Citi Prestige account holders get unlimited access to AA, US Airways and Priority Pass Select airport lounges along with 2 guests or his/her immediate family. This is easily the most generous lounge benefit out there, unless your travels regularly take you to airports with AMEX Centurion lounges. While the annual fee is not waived, the Citi Prestige card hass a $250 annual air travel credit, so as long as you spend $250 each year with any airline for any reason, you can get $500 in credits within the first year of holding the card. Unlike other cards that require you to select an airline or have restrictions on what qualifies for a credit, this one is simple. You get a credit for your first $250 spent directly with an airline. For us, that was $50 in US Airways checked bag fees we couldn’t avoid, and the first $200 of the taxes and fees on our Australia/New Zealand trip. There is one wrinkle with the credits:
This statement credit is an annual benefit available for purchases appearing on your billing statements from December through the following December. Pending transactions that do not post in your December billing cycle will count towards the next year’s Air Travel Credit.
So you can actually spend in late December after your December statement posts for 2016 credit, but you must spend $250 with airline(s) before your December statement to get the full 2015 credit.
Becoming and remaining a Citigold client
- You can open a Citigold checking account, and pay the $30 monthly fee if your combined average balance falls below $50,000 in a month. From Citi’s website:
Your combined average balance range during this period will be used to determine whether or not you will be charged a monthly service fee for the statement period. Fees waived for $50,000 or more in linked deposit (includes checking, savings, money market accounts and CDs) and retirement accounts.
- Or you can do what we did: open a Citigold account (fees are waived for the first 2+ months) with an AA miles or ThankYou Points bonus, wait until the bonus posts, and downgrade to Basic checking which only requires one monthly direct deposit and billpay to avoid monthly fees. We use Bluebird, Serve, Redcard, and/or Paypal for the direct deposit, and any payment initiated on the Citi checking site to a non-Citi credit card counts as a bill payment. Staying Citigold? Read on…
Our experience with ThankYou Points cards
In 2013 I opened a Citigold checking account for 30K AA miles. I downgraded to Basic checking after the miles posted 3-4 months later and never paid any fees. The balance was never over $2000. Since then my Citi login has always said Citigold at the top, and all phone reps for Citi checking and credit cards begin conversations by thanking me for being a Citigold customer. I expect I would lose Citigold if I closed that account, but otherwise I get Citigold treatment without the requirements and fees. Bonnie did exactly the same except with a 40K ThankYou point bonus for opening the Citigold account.
Last year Bonnie got the public ThankYou Premier offer with the split 50K bonus. It wasn’t the best decision, but I think we’ll go ahead and pay the $125 for the 30,000 points and then decide if we want to use them for a $300 mortgage payment.
I have churned various AA cards since Jan 2013, 12 cards total across various products, personal and business. Far short of what might have been possible, but a nice haul nonetheless. Ever since Citi added transfer partners and increased the credit to $250, I wanted to open a Citi Prestige card with the offer in-branch Citigold offer. But Citi closed or sold all of their branches within a 3 hour drive of San Antonio. So I googled the nearest branch and called them directly:
‘Yes, I’d like to talk to a banker.’
‘Ok, what for?’
‘Because I want to open a credit card with an offer that I think is only available in the branch, and y’all closed all of your San Antonio branches. I’d like to apply over the phone or via mail or email with the offer you have in the branch.’
The banker came on and said, ‘sure if you’re a Citigold client you can apply under this offer. Let me email you the application, scan and send it back, and I’ll process it.’
I filled it out, complete with my Citigold (basic) checking account number, and emailed it. Also on the paperwork he sent me were 60K AA Executive and 50K AA Platinum offers with none of the new language on some Citi offers that no longer allow churning. Minimum spending requirements on all of those offers are high, but the Executive card offer might be worthwhile for someone who wants to keep it long-term as the annual fee on it is also reduced to $350.
I called Citi a couple days later to check app status and they said there was no application in the system yet. Three days after emailing the application, the banker called me back and said he needed me to talk to someone to process my application. Someone verified I was me and then transferred me to one of my favorite South Dakotans who approved it after the usual 2 minute hold, and transferred some credit from my one remaining AA Platinum card. Success!
Is it worth it?
So far, it definitely is with just one little hangup. Adding the ThankYou points my checking account had earned was no problem, and they instantly became more valuable. 3X points are nice when we eat out or pick up lunch, and the first statement closed leaving me with the 40K points I needed to transfer to Air France for a flight within South Asia at 10K miles per person. If I hadn’t opened this card, we’d have needed to transfer AMEX points to Air France instead. With the current British Airways 40% bonus, having those 40K ThankYou points ‘earned’ us 56,000 British Airways Avios.
The hangup? Everything about the card is backwards, and cashiers can’t figure it out! The magnetic strip is on the front but with very little color contrast, and everything else is on the back of the card. With the 15K spend I’ve been using it for nearly everything, and it seems every time I use the Prestige card I have to explain the silly thing to the cashier.
The $250 credit posted along with the $350 annual fee. Again, no tricks or registration needed, you just have to use the Prestige card for any purchase from an airline.
A few fun questions remain: Could the Prestige card be churned? Would it work to open a Prestige midyear, open a Premier 5 or 6 months later to keep the points active, close the Prestige shortly after maxing out the second $250 and then open another Prestige card? How many Premier or Prestige cards can you have at once? I just might have to do some testing…
Unless I’m missing something the Prestige has different points earning than the Premier, contrary to what you wrote. Maybe you got a different deal than what is publicly posted?
Earn More With Every Experience
With the ability to earn points for things you buy and things you do, it’s easy to see how rewarding being a Citi Prestige® cardmember truly is.*
Earn 3 ThankYou® Points per $1 spent on air travel and hotel
Earn 2 ThankYou Points per $1 spent on entertainment
Earn 2 ThankYou Points per $1 spent on dining out
Earn 1 ThankYou Point Per $1 spent on other purchases
You’re not missing anything, I had overlooked that the 3X and 2X bonus categories are reversed. I corrected the post, thanks!
Yes the 3x and 2x categories for the Premier and the Prestige are currently reversed. However, the Premier is changing in April and switching to 3x travel and 2x dining. I assume these categories will be the same as for the Prestige, but someone on flyertalk posted the new terms, and the 3x category for the Premier will evidently include gas, which is not currently the case for the Prestige.
Effective April 19th, 2015, unless you are participating in a limited-time offer, you will earn:
— 3 ThankYou Points for every dollar you spend on purchases at airlines, hotels, car rental agencies, travel agencies, gas stations, commuter transportation, taxi/limousines, passenger railways, cruise lines, bridge and road tolls, parking lots/garages, campgrounds and trailer parks, time shares, bus lines, motor home/RV Rental and boat rentals;
— 2 ThankYou Points for every dollar you spend on purchases at restaurants and on select entertainment merchants, including sports promoters, theatrical promoters, movie theaters, amusement parks, tourist attractions, record stores and video rental stores; and
— 1 ThankYou Point for every dollar you spend on other purchases.
Thanks for the heads-up dbeach! Honestly I pay very little attention to category bonuses. Why keep using the Prestige card after the first 15K when I could open a Premier card and earn 4.3 base points per dollar on my next 15K in spending, or AA Executive cards and earn 11 miles per dollar?
Premier’s annual fee has dropped to $95 too. Huzzah?
I’m allergic to fees, but smaller is definitely better!
That hasn’t been confirmed yet, it wasn’t in any of the changes that were listed. Somebody just heard it from the CSR.
I said I heard the fee is dropping during my request for a retention bonus today – either way I’m happy for the $125 statement credit we got offered!
On the Premier card application page: “Annual Fee: $125 (fee waived for the first 12 months). On 4/19/2015, this fee will be reduced to $95 on all accounts.1”
Kenny…are you saying the Premier Thank You card has not annual fee for Citigold checking account holders? Is this for the first year only or perpetually?
“So to take advantage of that offer you do have to spend an additional $10,000 but you have a year to do so, you earn points on those purchases, and you don’t have to pay the $125 annual fee.”
Kennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnny! answer me 🙂
The Premier card has the first year fee waived on both offers. On the Citigold offer and some targeted offers, the bonus can be earned during the first 12 months so no fee has to be paid. With the public offer, you can’t earn 30K of the bonus until after you’ve had the card for a year, so you’ll have to pay the second year’s fee. But we asked for retention on our card that just had the fee hit, and they offered a $125 credit for doing some spending 😀
On the citi prestige 60k point offer – any chance someone has a front and back copy of the offer? I don’t have a branch in my state and they won’t give it to me over the phone without a front and back copy.
nice post.. it has everything I needed to know!
do u mind sharing which branch did u call. cant seem to find any branch in TX after the sale to BBT.
tried googling but keeps showing all the branches that were sold.
The Dallas area branch I called has been sold, in March. The second time around I called branches in San Diego until I got a banker on the phone. It may take several calls due to overzealous gatekeepers, good luck!
do you need to open the checkings account even after your card is approved? I hate maintaining the direct deposit and pay bill
The worst things that should happen if you close the checking account are the loss of the annual relationship bonus points, and an increased annual fee. I’d say it’s worth the trouble with the level of service we get as Citigold.
So even after you convert your gold to normal checking account, you still get the relationship bonus points? That’s good to know.
How did you downgrade the account ??? Was there a particular method of going about it ???
I initiated a chat session from my online account and requested a downgrade to basic checking.
Do you still get the annual 15% TYP relationship bonus after downgrading to basic checking from CitiGold?