Favorite travel redemption that is now gone

smittytabb

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Staff member
I often see posts on the forum from people new to the game who want to plan a first trip and are trying to figure out where to start. I also see veterans who have shifted from miles & points to cash back and who are traveling less. I guess I see all of what we are doing as in constant flux with the best, most outsized values at the biggest risk of being gone. So I tend to book with that in mind. Sometimes we are warned that something is going away, like the Club Carlson two for one nights. Sometimes we aren't, like when AA pulled their One World Traveler mileage awards. I was saving for one of those and it was tough to have it pulled.

So, I am writing to ask what your favorite redemption you made that is gone or largely gone. Here is mine. I flew on AA miles on Hawaiian airlines in First and then stayed a week in Maui at the Andaz Maui using a points and cash redemption and a Diamond suite upgrade. Before I booked this, the full Diamond breakfast was downgraded to a lesser type of breakfast. The bloggers were up in arms. Meanwhile, I was looking at the rest of what they offered and realizing it couldn't last. If you focus on a detail like breakfast on its own merit, instead of recognizing that this is a property that doesn't want to give away outsized value anymore, you might not understand you have to grab it while you can.

The first thing that went after I booked was the ability to use points and cash at all. I booked it and bought discounted gift cards to pay the cash part, so I got an amazing value for $150 a night (minus 10% with the GCs) in an ocean view Andaz suite. It was on a corner of the property and it had the most amazing ocean view I have had anywhere. It was terrific. Then they started charging a resort fee. When I booked there was none and we didn't have to pay it.

Then a few months ago, AA announced it would no longer allow AA miles to be used on flights from the mainland to Hawaii on Hawaiian. Now, I know what you are thinking. It is much more comfortable to fly on some of the other airlines in first to Hawaii. Hawaiian's product is not as nice, but the service is amazing and it was never hard to find inventory, so I really am glad I got to do that redemption.

And I am even more glad I selected the Andaz for points and cash when I did and used one of my four yearly Diamond suite upgrades. I would likely not choose to stay there again now, given there is a resort fee, no ability to use points and cash and in general it is no longer the outsized value it was.

So my main message here is don't assume something you really want to do will always be there. If you can find a way to book it now, do it. It might be gone faster than you think. I have great memories of my wedding anniversary trip to Maui with my husband. The next time we go to Hawaii, we will find another outsized value and have that experience instead!
 

italdesign

Level 2 Member
Great topic. When I entered the game 2.5 years ago, UA MP was pretty much the most lucrative mileage program overall. Every day I read on MMS and TPG and VFTW and OMAAT about the exotic partner lounges and cabins redeemed by trivial amounts of UA miles. So when that dark day in Nov 2013 came, it was now or never to experience the legendary partner heavens that I had been reading about. So I sat by the computer day and night and came up with a beaten path that many others had taken: LH J to EU and TG F to BKK, hoping to snatch LH F close-in. As luck had it, a freak accident happened a few weeks later (and not close-in at all) where LH F mysteriously became available on 2 Canadian routes. It happened after I got home on a work day, and I said to myself, "this is it." I stayed up all night to find an itin that tied everything together. I went to work in the morning and made the call to change the itin. This was just days after the new award chart got implemented and the call center was a mess, with most agents not knowing the exceptions that had been communicated by UA_Insider, which exempted certain changes from being repriced. After hours on the phone, it finally went through. I was a zombie at work, but I got LH F and TG F to show for it.

Indeed, at the current rate of 130K RT for the same itin that cost me 70K, it's safe to say it will never happen again under UA currency. It was a big deal when I posted my first MMS-style pic on FB, lounging in LH F, served with bubbly and caviar, with more privacy and space than some ppl's real bed. Caused quite a stir!
 

SanDiego1K

Level 2 Member
How far back do we get to go? In the 1980s, TWA was my carrier of choice. I was treated very well by them and points were easy to earn. TWA had an award for 50K points that was first class to Europe plus a F upgrade for a companion on any paid ticket. We used that award over and over and over. We went everywhere on the TWA route network. There weren't partner alliances then, but there was enough in their own route structure to keep us entertained. TWA flew to Mumbai, Cairo, Tel Aviv, Frankfurt, London, Milan, Lisbon, and more. This was during the era of recliner seats, not sleeper seats. More was made of the food. TWA brought around a trolley and carved prime rib and rack of lamb right at the seat. We took my parents on their first F trip to Europe. I remember my mother telling the FA that she hadn't ordered the shrimp (appetizer) but was having beef. No, Mom, you get it all. Good times.

We got a hotel award with each flight award for 50% off a multi night stay at Hilton International. It was a separate chain from Hilton Hotels at the time, a much more luxurious experience. We stayed at the Kahala Hilton on Oahu. I remember them bringing a cut pineapple to the room where you could pull out spears from the center of the pineapple.

Our last TWA award was 18 years ago to Milan. It's possible that the redemption level was higher by then. What I distinctly remember is waking during the flight. We were in the first row. The FA came over to me, took my hand, and told me that the pilot had just received word of Princess Diana's death. I think she was so moved by it she needed to touch someone and share the grief.
 

Jung Lee

New Member
around sep/oct 2013, I booked four Business Class for June 2014 using 100K/ each UA MP, IAD - FRA - FCO (10 days stopover) - ATH - CHQ, and return on CHQ - ATH - IST - IAD. I got to try out Lufthansa Business, angled lay flat :'( , and Turkish Air business class, and the Turkish Air lounge in Istanbul . Today that same redemption would cost me 560K UA miles. <sigh>
 

italdesign

Level 2 Member
OK, I'm not gonna say this is my favorite, but back in the day when Frontier was a normal airline, 20k RT to Alaska or other obscure places in the NW was pretty cool, easily worth 2-3 CPM. I was last able to find a flight to Fairbanks in early 2014. Couldn't go, had to cancel it. Plan was to check back in a few months for the fall or next spring. Within a few months, they had removed service to AK and most of their interesting destinations, to a point where the best I could do was 1.5 CPM, and only to one or two places. The difference, esp given the quickness of the change, stunned me. Not that it lacked warning signs in advance, but I didn't think the change would be so drastic and rapid.
 

FindAWay

Level 2 Member
In April, 2012, I used the US Airways Off-Peak Business Class Award to book a trip for us to enjoy both Hawaii and Europe:

We used 17.5k AA miles per person to start in Hawaii to fly off-peak AA economy (this is still available):
ORD-LAX-KOA

My favorite travel redemption that is now gone was that, for part of this trip, we used only 55k US miles per person to book in business (including US Envoy) a roundtrip (really, open-jaw for us) from Hawaii to Europe:
KOA-PHX-PHL-CDG,CDG-PHL-ORD

While we were on the trip, US Airways took away the business class option for the off-peak redemption.
 

smittytabb

Moderator
Staff member
In April, 2012, I used the US Airways Off-Peak Business Class Award to book a trip for us to enjoy both Hawaii and Europe:

We used 17.5k AA miles per person to start in Hawaii to fly off-peak AA economy (this is still available):
ORD-LAX-KOA

My favorite travel redemption that is now gone was that, for part of this trip, we used only 55k US miles per person to book in business (including US Envoy) a roundtrip (really, open-jaw for us) from Hawaii to Europe:
KOA-PHX-PHL-CDG,CDG-PHL-ORD

While we were on the trip, US Airways took away the business class option for the off-peak redemption.
RIP USAirways! I also had another favorite that is gone. Around the world in business for 90K
ORD✈IST (Lufthansa) with stopover in IST for two week tour of Turkey
IST✈NRT (Turkish) Toyko as destination for two week tour of Japan
NRT✈ORD (ANA)
 

TheBOSman

Moderator
Staff member
The AA Explorer award, and it isn't even close (at least for things that weren't mistakes). I had a slide up of my routing at the PHX DO/meetup, but it allowed for 16 segments and 50,000 miles. I had a ticket, first class on all legs that had it, cost me 330,000 AA miles. Routing: GRU-MIA-JFK-LHR-DXB-SYD-MEL-(xDXB)-xLHR-AMS-xLHR-BOS-xORD-xNRT-PVG-xHKG-JNB. Includes first class on AA, BA (with visits to both Concorde Rooms), QF (with a QF MEL first lounge visit and two visits to the EK DXB Concourse A first class lounge that takes up an entire floor of the terminal), JL, and CX. It also included first on Dragonair but they changed my flight after I had booked :(. 16 flights, 49,999 BIS miles :D :D :D. I couldn't even fit JNB-CPT in at the end, and had to use Avios to book that separately. I might be the reason it no longer exists :oops: :D.
 

italdesign

Level 2 Member
It is with great sadness that I learn that Comfort Hotel Diana likely left Choice hotels. I am very glad I redeemed it this year. It's not at all fancy but the location is my favorite of all time and made life so easy for enjoying Venice. All for 10K Choice/MR a night. Very, very sad for me.
 

Rick351714

Level 2 Member
I really miss the Club Carlson buy one get one night option. For Europe, it was so easy to make our trips that much more affordable with that option. Plus, earning 5 points per dollar, 10k spend would easily earn us 2 nights in almost any Radisson Blu usually in great locations in the city.

I still have some rooms coming up booked with that offer, but ever since they removed it I have had bad service from their customer reps as well.
 
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