I’ve written elsewhere about the Robinhood app and Robinhood margin accounts (branded as “Robinhood Gold”). One issue raised on the Saverocity Forum was that Robinhood’s margin interest rates were high compared to those offered by Interactive Brokers, generally considered one of the cheapest sources of margin credit for retail investors.
I looked into it, and there are a couple moving pieces I think are worth mentioning. I’m not thrilled by the pricing disclosure of either site, so if there’s something I’m missing I hope readers with more experience will chime in.
Robinhood Gold’s flat margin lending APR
Robinhood’s margin lending product is unorthodox, and presumably they hope to make some profits on the confusion induced from that weirdness, but the basic premise is simple: you pick the amount of margin credit you want Robinhood to extend, and you pay a flat fee for it whether you use it or not.
I can pay $120 per year for $2,000 in “Gold Buying Power,” i.e. margin credit, on the Robinhood trading platform. That works out to a 6% APR, although any unused Gold Buying Power doesn’t reduce the amount paid. If you only use $1,000 of your $2,000 limit, you’ll end up paying 12% APR, for example.
Since Robinhood doesn’t charge for domestic ETF and stock trades, that gives you a flat margin lending APR that you know in advance (as long as you use your entire margin credit line).
Interactive Brokers’ layers of fees and interest
The thing said, both by Interactive Brokers and by their defenders, is that their margin lending rates are much lower than their competitors. This is true. Using their margin interest calculator, the same $2,000 margin credit line that would cost $120 per year at Robinhood would cost just $48.20 at Interactive Brokers.
But Interactive Brokers, unlike Robinhood, doesn’t offer commission-free trades. Not only that, but if you don’t earn Interactive Brokers $10 per month in commissions, they’ll charge you the difference!
That means you are guaranteed to spend $120 per year — the same 6% APR Robinhood charges on a margin line of credit of $2,000 — plus your margin interest, in order to take advantage of Interactive Brokers lower margin interest rate.
Of course there’s a breakeven point
Interactive Brokers’ margin lending rate is so much lower than Robinhood’s that even with the fixed overhead cost of $120, you quickly reach the breakeven point between their service and Robinhood Gold: at $3,342 in margin, to be precise. By the time you got to Robinhood’s next threshold of $4,000 in margin (costing $240 per year) you’d save $23.60 with Interactive Brokers’ $120 annual fee and $96.40 in interest.
Which service to use depends on both your needs and expectations
Interactive Brokers, as far as I can tell, is a profitable company that is able to leverage its scale to offer lower costs to its customers.
Robinhood, as far as I can tell, is a deeply unprofitable company trying to seize as much market share as possible while it’s still being pumped full of cash by its early-stage investors, hoping to eventually raise prices and become profitable.
None of that matters to you, per se: your securities are insured on either platform, whether one or both eventually goes bust. What might matter to you is that in order to get and retain market share, Robinhood might keep its margin lending rates lower longer than Interactive Brokers does. If that’s the case, then Interactive Broker’s interest rate might creep up high enough to make Robinhood the cheaper source of margin credit, once you take Interactive Broker’s flat monthly fees into account.
Mom says
Ok, guys, I admit I’m an old school investor, and avoid margin if I can so this is new. There is mention here of what the margin is quarantined by. Usually you have a portfolio, and “borrow” against it. If your purchase drops enough if value you may have to cough up more “security” in a margin call. But interest/fees are minimal. I take this article to suggest with these companies you are essentially borrowing the money, they are buying and holding the stock (maybe), and charging you for this? The maybe is because one never knows how the broker is using your share until you ask them to be sold.
indyfinance says
Mom,
You’re right that since the loan you take out to buy shares is secured by your existing portfolio the interest and fees are relatively low, since the broker can always ask for more cash or sell your securities in a margin call. But they’re not free, and as interest rates gradually rise lenders like Interactive Brokers will likewise raise their rates from the current rock-bottom 2.41%. After all, if treasuries ever pay 5% again, no one will be willing to loan out money to strangers for 2.41%! Interest rates have been so low for so long that people forget even a secured loan used to cost 10% or 15% in the 70’s and 80’s, just because that’s what lenders could get in the lowest-risk government bonds.
—Indy
calwatch says
IB also charges market data fees, although at high enough balances the cost is offset by the significantly lower interest rates – and for non-daily traders they could use free data from a Schwab or Merrill account. Although I can’t find it now, a few years ago IB was actually advertising that you could make money by investing in dividend paying stocks because their margin rate was so low.
If you are doing small fry, then Robinhood is better, For six figure margin loans, obviously IB is far and away the best, despite their ruthless liquidation when margin calls are near. On the other hand, with portfolio margin you can keep much more of a cushion before liquidation,