mLife Gold Complimentary Cruises

Matt

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Part of my talk at TravelCon was a theory that I might be able to obtain cruise benefits from mLife based on an unwritten rule system. Upon my return, I thought I might have been wrong about this, as the first call to Royal Caribbean resulted in them sticking to the rule book, but things changed yesterday, and it seems I may have been onto something.

Here’s the partnership rules, which outline the mLife and Celebrity (Royal and Celebrity are the same parent company) relationship


mlife celebrity relationship

Note the terms.. you must earn mLife Platinum or Noir status (not match into it via Hyatt) in point 1, and you get a certain type of cruise in point 3.


mlife celebrity terms

During the day in Vegas I earned mlife Gold status, which as you can see does not make you eligible for a free cruise.. but here’s the email, offering a cruise option that is outside of the terms above.


mlife email

The real thrust of my presentation in Vegas was to create gigs that pay in perpetuity, and while getting a few things for free (dining, drinks, haircuts and such) at the time is good, it really only pays off when you start getting emails like the above, and suddenly your vacation options look a lot better.

How free is free?


I enjoy ‘free’ cruises and have just returned from a week on the brand new Norwegian Escape, and we are headed on a 10 day cruise of Europe from Barcelona in April. NCL prices free differently from Royal Caribbean, who interestingly price differently from Celebrity. Here’s some data points on that, though we should note I am at first offer with Royal/Celebrity, which tends to change based on shipboard reporting.


NCL Epic from Barcelona
NCL Pricing


NCL tends to price as follows for a comp cruise:

$25 per person per day, plus port fees/taxes. You might get this offer for an Inside Stateroom, or for a top suite (I believe the best I have been offered for this rate is Balcony) you can then upgrade that to higher levels. Anything above Mini Suite on NCL (basically just a bigger balcony cabin) leaps up, but to go from Balcony to Mini Suite can run at about $240 pp as you can see from the below.


NCL Epic Cost

Note that the 3rd person pricing (Dylan) is free here, but to get that with NCL you need to hunt for cruises that are 3rd person free, else he would be at full fare, rather than $25 per diem. Also, I have no idea why the base rate isn’t $250 pp for this cruise, but am not complaining!

Also, I picked up 4x ‘Cruise Next’ coupons on the Escape, they cost $250 each, but you get $500 against your bill on the cruise (even if you only buy the coupons..) and applied one on my return.

Upgrades


If you were offered a base cabin lower than balcony, you could upgrade to each level (Inside>Oceanview>Balcony>Mini Suite) for a fee, but going from Inside to Mini Suite would cost more than the $240 pp shown above. I believe I was offered an Inside to Mini Suite for $600 pp in the past.

Celebrity Pricing


I picked a random date in February for Celebrity. They quoted me $400 for 2 people all in, and $800 for 3 (that kid fare..) I’ve not yet tested to see if I can find a 3rd guest free fare like with NCL, but it is a possibility. My mLife Gold cruise offer is any Caribbean cruise on Celebrity or Royal Caribbean in an inside cabin. For Celebrity, to upgrade that the policy is 30% off the published rate.. which came to a price of about $3000 for a 7 day on the Celebrity Reflection.

Royal Caribbean Pricing


For Royal, I started off with the Oasis of the Seas (mega ship of about 225000 tons) the base fare there was $1220 for 3. I was surprised to see it higher than Celebrity for an inside cabin, though the rep mentioned the fare was absolutely all inclusive, in that it had the service charges along with port fees and charges and other costs prepaid. Upgrading on the Oasis to a balcony came in at around $1500 for an inside view (it’s a weird ship) and about $1900 for an ocean view. Pricing was more aligned with the NCL system, and the rep informed me that you can get a variance of $100-1000 based on how sold out the balcony cabins are on your week.

The Wrap


Overall, I’m super happy that my hairbrained theory in Vegas came true, and tempted to hop on a Celebrity cruise for $800 and haggle for an upgrade onboard. Oh.. and for those who care, I had my second haircut this year onboard the Escape for free :)




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Dwater

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I would advise anyone to read Matts previous posts on getting a "free" cruise on NCL.

The next step is to reduce the theoretical to zero so the cruise really is free!

This is "more" than possible.

While video poker needs twice the coin in, often the pay tables are very favorable and you can achieve 98-101% paybacks (yes some machines actually have a player advantage with the correct strategy!)
My advice for VP paytables is the website vpfree2 or wizard of odds.

For table games such as BJ, assuming standard rules and a house advantage of around 1%
A simple 2 to 1 spread plus wonging out (leaving when the count turns negative, ) is enough to play a break even game.
Leaving can mean leaving the table or taking a bathroom/ drink break and returning when a new shoe starts!
If a casino will let you enter a shoe in the middle, simply watching and only jumping in at a positive count (wonging in) is enough to get an edge even when flat betting. (one bet size)

There are a ton of simple techniques that can artificially boost your theoretical at any casino.
There is a neat book by Max Rubin called Comp City that talks about this.

All table game theoretical s are based on the hold of all players, including the vast majority who play games like BJ and VP sub-optimally.
 

plane2port

Level 2 Member
I would advise anyone to read Matts previous posts on getting a "free" cruise on NCL.

The next step is to reduce the theoretical to zero so the cruise really is free!

This is "more" than possible.

While video poker needs twice the coin in, often the pay tables are very favorable and you can achieve 98-101% paybacks (yes some machines actually have a player advantage with the correct strategy!)
My advice for VP paytables is the website vpfree2 or wizard of odds.

For table games such as BJ, assuming standard rules and a house advantage of around 1%
A simple 2 to 1 spread plus wonging out (leaving when the count turns negative, ) is enough to play a break even game.
Leaving can mean leaving the table or taking a bathroom/ drink break and returning when a new shoe starts!
If a casino will let you enter a shoe in the middle, simply watching and only jumping in at a positive count (wonging in) is enough to get an edge even when flat betting. (one bet size)

There are a ton of simple techniques that can artificially boost your theoretical at any casino.
There is a neat book by Max Rubin called Comp City that talks about this.

All table game theoretical s are based on the hold of all players, including the vast majority who play games like BJ and VP sub-optimally.
Great post and very informative. Thanks for the book referral.
 

Matt

Administrator
Staff member
While video poker needs twice the coin in, often the pay tables are very favorable and you can achieve 98-101% paybacks (yes some machines actually have a player advantage with the correct strategy!)
My advice for VP paytables is the website vpfree2 or wizard of odds.
Let's remember that 101% payback can still result in a 100% loss though :)
 
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