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<p>[QUOTE="janetdoe, post: 503754, member: 1545"]</p><p>I think if you sample a grape in the produce aisle, that is technically stealing. But one could easily argue that nobody minds, that sort of sampling is expected, and one is perfectly safe indulging.</p><p></p><p>However, if you sit down in the aisle and eat a pound of grapes, then walk out and brag to everyone in the parking lot about the way you you get tons of free grapes and you're never going to stop, that is stupid. It's the same crime, but the amount and flaunting it are much more likely to draw consequences.</p><p></p><p>Do I think anyone who is aware that VGCs are excluded from earning points, but still goes around buying some gift cards now and then and then redeems the points online is committing wire fraud? Not really - I think that technically a case could be made, but it is entirely unlikely due to the low stakes, much like sampling a grape at the grocery store. Any consequences would almost certainly be handled at a clawbacks/account closure level, if any.</p><p></p><p>Do I think that anyone who uses MS to produce a 5-figure monthly tax free income by making purchases that are not supposed to earn points/rebates is committing wire fraud? I honestly don't know. But I do know that at some point, it starts to look a lot more like an intentional "scheme to defraud" to a potential jury. And publicizing the activity and pointing out all the tax laws that are NOT being broken doesn't change the fact that there are some fairly broadly written rules (especially wire fraud, RICO, etc) that allow prosecutors to charge crimes when no other law seems to fit the case.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="janetdoe, post: 503754, member: 1545"] I think if you sample a grape in the produce aisle, that is technically stealing. But one could easily argue that nobody minds, that sort of sampling is expected, and one is perfectly safe indulging. However, if you sit down in the aisle and eat a pound of grapes, then walk out and brag to everyone in the parking lot about the way you you get tons of free grapes and you're never going to stop, that is stupid. It's the same crime, but the amount and flaunting it are much more likely to draw consequences. Do I think anyone who is aware that VGCs are excluded from earning points, but still goes around buying some gift cards now and then and then redeems the points online is committing wire fraud? Not really - I think that technically a case could be made, but it is entirely unlikely due to the low stakes, much like sampling a grape at the grocery store. Any consequences would almost certainly be handled at a clawbacks/account closure level, if any. Do I think that anyone who uses MS to produce a 5-figure monthly tax free income by making purchases that are not supposed to earn points/rebates is committing wire fraud? I honestly don't know. But I do know that at some point, it starts to look a lot more like an intentional "scheme to defraud" to a potential jury. And publicizing the activity and pointing out all the tax laws that are NOT being broken doesn't change the fact that there are some fairly broadly written rules (especially wire fraud, RICO, etc) that allow prosecutors to charge crimes when no other law seems to fit the case. [/QUOTE]
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